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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpsand.net/2009/08/26/convocation/comment-page-1/#comment-10406</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, too, Joe.  I really outdid myself on this one.  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, too, Joe.  I really outdid myself on this one.  :(</p>
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		<title>By: jd</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpsand.net/2009/08/26/convocation/comment-page-1/#comment-10405</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this apology, Cathy. It is fully accepted, in the full knowledge that I have many times made a far worse fool of myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this apology, Cathy. It is fully accepted, in the full knowledge that I have many times made a far worse fool of myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very sorry, Joe.  I had no desire to convey a position of any moral superiority.  I&#039;m sorry that I made such a fool of myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very sorry, Joe.  I had no desire to convey a position of any moral superiority.  I&#8217;m sorry that I made such a fool of myself.</p>
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		<title>By: jd</title>
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		<dc:creator>jd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The politics of cultural representation is an important concern, Cathy, but in this case your preoccupation with it caused you to badly misread my post, which is in fact pretty self-deprecating. Your preconceptions apparently kept you from hearing the irony in my words -- those scare quotes around &quot;sophisticated&quot; are there for a reason. I was, in fact, somewhat taken aback by the accusatory tone of both your earlier posts, which, it seemed to me, were not designed to open a conversation, but to stake out a position of moral superiority. As for my actual observations, I&#039;d just note that you did not hear the speech, nor, I think, have you read Alexie&#039;s novel (I could be wrong about this) and so, again, you were reacting to something you imagined to be the case that was not in fact the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politics of cultural representation is an important concern, Cathy, but in this case your preoccupation with it caused you to badly misread my post, which is in fact pretty self-deprecating. Your preconceptions apparently kept you from hearing the irony in my words &#8212; those scare quotes around &#8220;sophisticated&#8221; are there for a reason. I was, in fact, somewhat taken aback by the accusatory tone of both your earlier posts, which, it seemed to me, were not designed to open a conversation, but to stake out a position of moral superiority. As for my actual observations, I&#8217;d just note that you did not hear the speech, nor, I think, have you read Alexie&#8217;s novel (I could be wrong about this) and so, again, you were reacting to something you imagined to be the case that was not in fact the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpsand.net/2009/08/26/convocation/comment-page-1/#comment-10387</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re probably right, Joe.  I spend a fair amount of time at my job thinking about the politics of cultural representation in the visual arts, and maybe I read too much into your post.  When I first saw it, I was disturbed (justifiably or not) that you described yourself as &quot;sophisticated,&quot; compared to the Kiwanis-like speech from a Mohawk Chief.  I&#039;m sorry, however, that I wasn&#039;t very dispassionate in my first response to you, but I hope I have been in these last two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re probably right, Joe.  I spend a fair amount of time at my job thinking about the politics of cultural representation in the visual arts, and maybe I read too much into your post.  When I first saw it, I was disturbed (justifiably or not) that you described yourself as &#8220;sophisticated,&#8221; compared to the Kiwanis-like speech from a Mohawk Chief.  I&#8217;m sorry, however, that I wasn&#8217;t very dispassionate in my first response to you, but I hope I have been in these last two.</p>
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		<title>By: jd</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpsand.net/2009/08/26/convocation/comment-page-1/#comment-10368</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy, I haven&#039;t responded because I&#039;ve been busy with school starting and haven&#039;t had time to check the blog. Now that I have read what you have written and reread it, and thought about it carefully and dispassionately, all I can say is that what you have written above says much more about you than it says about me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy, I haven&#8217;t responded because I&#8217;ve been busy with school starting and haven&#8217;t had time to check the blog. Now that I have read what you have written and reread it, and thought about it carefully and dispassionately, all I can say is that what you have written above says much more about you than it says about me.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Tedford</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpsand.net/2009/08/26/convocation/comment-page-1/#comment-10359</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Tedford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, my comments yesterday, written in haste, were not communicated well at all.  I&#039;m sorry for being sarcastic (rarely helpful!), and I am going to try to do better now.

Reading your blog entry about the convocation ceremony disturbed me.  As I tried to imagine a Native American guest of honor seated on a stage during an important annual ceremony with certain esteemed audience members sitting in full regalia, I couldn&#039;t help but think of what such an encounter might have looked like 250 years ago.  I wondered how the power dynamic between Native Americans and Euro-American whites has shifted, and I sensed from reading your blog that you were slightly uncomfortable with that new dynamic.  

To me, despite your overall admiration of Ransom&#039;s remarks, your criticism at the end illustrated an uneasiness with the speaker’s authority.  Given an unspoken power dynamic among diverse groups of people at the convocation ceremony, I was disheartened to hear you liken Ransom’s comments to something you might hear at a Kiwanis or Chamber of Commerce event.  

I will write more again later.  My comments now are written in haste, too, but I need to get into work pronto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, my comments yesterday, written in haste, were not communicated well at all.  I&#8217;m sorry for being sarcastic (rarely helpful!), and I am going to try to do better now.</p>
<p>Reading your blog entry about the convocation ceremony disturbed me.  As I tried to imagine a Native American guest of honor seated on a stage during an important annual ceremony with certain esteemed audience members sitting in full regalia, I couldn&#8217;t help but think of what such an encounter might have looked like 250 years ago.  I wondered how the power dynamic between Native Americans and Euro-American whites has shifted, and I sensed from reading your blog that you were slightly uncomfortable with that new dynamic.  </p>
<p>To me, despite your overall admiration of Ransom&#8217;s remarks, your criticism at the end illustrated an uneasiness with the speaker’s authority.  Given an unspoken power dynamic among diverse groups of people at the convocation ceremony, I was disheartened to hear you liken Ransom’s comments to something you might hear at a Kiwanis or Chamber of Commerce event.  </p>
<p>I will write more again later.  My comments now are written in haste, too, but I need to get into work pronto.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Tedford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Tedford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch!

The chief of our regional Akwesasne &quot;tribe&quot; (sic) sounded too much like a Chamber of Commerce or Kiwannis speaker while he gave a convocation speech to Clarkson&#039;s incoming class?  It was too &quot;healthy-minded&quot; in comparison to your own &quot;&#039;sophisticated&#039; and post-modern perspective?&quot;

Would you really say such things to Mr. Ransom in person?  And if so, how do you think he would respond?

You thought Sherman Alexie&#039;s book Flight was too didactic?

And you&#039;re taking a bunch of Clarkson students to Vietnam next May?  Will any of them be Vietnamese students or from the Mohawk &quot;tribe?&quot;

You march in &quot;full academic regalia&quot; while those from the Mohawk tribe wear... shirts and pants.  (!)  And possibly carry a cell phone.  :/

I&#039;m not &quot;literary&quot; compared to you, Chu Joe, but nonetheless, I&#039;m sorry; I find these few posts offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch!</p>
<p>The chief of our regional Akwesasne &#8220;tribe&#8221; (sic) sounded too much like a Chamber of Commerce or Kiwannis speaker while he gave a convocation speech to Clarkson&#8217;s incoming class?  It was too &#8220;healthy-minded&#8221; in comparison to your own &#8220;&#8216;sophisticated&#8217; and post-modern perspective?&#8221;</p>
<p>Would you really say such things to Mr. Ransom in person?  And if so, how do you think he would respond?</p>
<p>You thought Sherman Alexie&#8217;s book Flight was too didactic?</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re taking a bunch of Clarkson students to Vietnam next May?  Will any of them be Vietnamese students or from the Mohawk &#8220;tribe?&#8221;</p>
<p>You march in &#8220;full academic regalia&#8221; while those from the Mohawk tribe wear&#8230; shirts and pants.  (!)  And possibly carry a cell phone.  :/</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not &#8220;literary&#8221; compared to you, Chu Joe, but nonetheless, I&#8217;m sorry; I find these few posts offensive.</p>
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