Why does Jack Spicer get included in the post-avant canon, but not John Berryman? Both are metrical masters who dramatize the self in extremis. The inclusion / exclusion is political & cultural, not literary. The notion of the post-avant is just another version of a discredited identity politics. Of course: I realize that Berryman worked from the academic side of the Beat / Academic divide of 1950s American poetry, while Spicer worked the anti-academic side of the fence. Even as an undergraduate in 1969, though, I was reading from both streams. That is, I never quite got the distinctions that my elders were so obsessed with during the Anthology Wars.